So, I find it really easy to fund deals in the $5M range (SBA) and > $25 - $20M (Independent Sponsor), but find it extremely difficult to find funding in the middle because most conventional financing institutions have thresholds of $3M in EBITDA and this is kind of a "tweener.'. It's this squarely in Conventional, Conventional + Mezz, SBA + Mezz land? Any help is appreciated.